tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6333107.post4662008861786338002..comments2024-01-23T18:58:16.955-07:00Comments on The Militant Libertarian: NY man forcibly sedated for cavity search gets $125k settlementAaron Turpenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07774655996138807357noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6333107.post-68018684144927770052009-07-25T13:51:38.545-06:002009-07-25T13:51:38.545-06:00Dictionary.com:
1. to exact punishment or expiat...Dictionary.com: <br />1. to exact punishment or expiation for a wrong on behalf of, esp. in a resentful or vindictive spirit: He revenged his murdered brother.<br />2. to take vengeance for; inflict punishment for; avenge: He revenged his brother's murder.<br /><br />That's how I see it. A true vendetta, of course, is much broader and usually involves multiple people (families, groups, gangs) rather than just a handful of individuals.<br /><br />Most of the time, in movies and television, "revenge" is shown to be an extreme reaction or a true vendetta against someone rather than real revenge.<br /><br />That's how I see it, anyway.Aaron Turpenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07774655996138807357noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6333107.post-87921516688535005942009-07-25T13:46:05.535-06:002009-07-25T13:46:05.535-06:00Your example doesn't sound like revenge to me....Your example doesn't sound like revenge to me. Maybe I'm thinking of it differently.Kent McManigalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05005964583189815410noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6333107.post-52479961216842240702009-07-25T13:37:37.998-06:002009-07-25T13:37:37.998-06:00I have little problem with revenge. So long as it...I have little problem with revenge. So long as it goes no further than the original offense and harms no one other than the offender, I'm at peace with it.<br /><br />The prospect of revenge is the basis for the "deterrent" ideal that our justice system originally was founded on. <br /><br />It is also the #1 way that most cultures throughout history have modeled their civilized behavior enforcement upon. <br /><br />My people are, for the most part, of Norse (Scandinavian, Germanic, Celtic) origins. All of their systems were based upon the concept of vendetta. They invented the very system of government we founded America upon, in fact.<br /><br />As far as I'm concerned, if you come to my home while I'm not here and steal my things, I have every right to do the same to you or to take similar revenge (holding you captive while I re-secure my belongings, destroying something of yours of equivalent value to what you took from me, taking money or goods in fair compensation for the things stolen, etc.). <br /><br />It used to be that when these acts were done, the police in most parts of this country would "look the other way" and forget that anything had ever happened. <br /><br />Of course, today, they'll go after the "vigilante" at three times the spittle-spewing vehemence they would ever expend on the original perpetrator.Aaron Turpenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07774655996138807357noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6333107.post-62971106324446505122009-07-25T13:30:16.365-06:002009-07-25T13:30:16.365-06:00I am against revenge. I think it is no longer sel...I am against revenge. I think it is no longer self-defense once the threat has ended. I do agree that this is the basis of the entire "justice system". That is a good reason I oppose it, as well. (Besides the fact that leaving the cannibals in charge of the nursery is a really bad idea!) But I am not perfect and in a case like this I wouldn't want to be the thug who committed the rape.Kent McManigalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05005964583189815410noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6333107.post-21309040286703806282009-07-25T13:23:54.593-06:002009-07-25T13:23:54.593-06:00I personally think the ZAP principle is null once ...I personally think the ZAP principle is null once you've been attacked and are acting in self-defense. I've always seen revenge as a type of self-defense. We're not always capable of immediate defense, but can often consider longer-term actions instead.<br /><br />Our entire justice system is modeled on this idea, really.Aaron Turpenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07774655996138807357noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6333107.post-45998111460144953392009-07-25T13:12:51.280-06:002009-07-25T13:12:51.280-06:00If this happened to me or anyone in my family (the...If this happened to me or anyone in my family (the ones I value, anyway) it would probably make me insane with rage. Although it would be a violation of the <a href="http://www.kentforliberty.com/zap.html" rel="nofollow">ZAP</a>, I think I would not rest until I had put the offenders in the ground. An insane man has no more principles to lose, anyway. Right?Kent McManigalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05005964583189815410noreply@blogger.com